I most certainly do as I'm collecting them. For sharing my games with other (retro) gaming heads, I decided to turn my collection of over 841 boxes* into shiny 3D
The tech behind the 3D boxes is simple: first up the game boxes sides are scanned. Then, those textures are attached to a 3D mesh based upon the boxes' actual dimensions. All boxes can be zoomed and rotated and some can even be looked at from top and bottom angles. Also, double click/tap a box with a gatefold cover to pop it up.
The site is a one-man show and done in my spare time. I do try to keep it as up-to-date as possible but sometimes, well, life happens and the time from picking up a new box until it's available in 3D with all bells and whistles does vary quite a bit. I'm trying to keep you all posted via the blog though.
Anyway, I better stop babbeling and let you jump right in. Use the search in the top right corner or start with one of the games listed below.
Enjoy,
Benjamin
* Well, lots of boxes and some not so boxy ones
Rotate: drag with left mouse button or with one finger
Pan: drag with right mouse button or with two fingers
Zoom: mouse wheel or pinch
Open/close gatefold: double click or double tap
There's 841 games available in 3D on this site that have been viewed 267,982 times since the site's new version went live on Nov 24, 2023. That's 32 games per hour. Piling those 841 games all up would result in a stack 29.96m high and with a volume of 1.31m³. When adding up all sides there's 93.02m² of boxart, not counting the 66 gatefolds available to explore on this site. Further, there's a total of 785 photos showing the games' contents.
I'm not done yet getting all the data in regard of media included, but with 704 boxes indexed, there's a total of 1,424 media. Here's a breakdown
In regard of fidelity, 475 out of the 841 boxes have all six sides scanned. I'm working on adding more but this comes down to finding the time needed for scanning and editing. There's also 66 boxes with a gatefold cover that can be flipped open by double-clicking the box. Also, 128 boxes do have specific textures for their reflectiveness. It's a subtl effect but IMHO worth all the work, just look at Morrowind or Beneath a Steel Sky.
In my second life as C64 graphician jmin I'm pixeling all kind of things for fun. Yesterday, I've submitted a pic for the currently running C64GFX.com Game Loading Screen Compo 2024 which celebrates the visuals shown while a game is loading. Rules are pretty loose, so game wise, everything goes.
The first thing that popped into my head was doing a MDK pic, and guess what, IMHO it turned out pretty neat, so here it is:
For those interested, the C64 file can be downloaded over at CSDb and you'll find some background info on jmin.at.
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This one has been on my list for way to long. I fondly remember how my friends and I laughed our asses off playing Caveman Ugh-Lympics on the humble breadbin. Nothing beats a round of fire-making, smacking your oponent on the head when he's dying of laughter. Zoink!
Quite some time ago, Thomas shared a pic of his French Diablo box and boy, I fell in love with it.
Cut to almost two years later, I found a copy for cheap for my shelf.
With this, my Test Drive II set is finally complete.
Getting updates for games is great, getting free upgrades is even better and getting remasters for free is ace. Thanks, id Software and Nightdive Studios for bringing Doom and Doom II up to speed.
Some time ago, I've started to scan the back of the box with the top lid on and thus showing the both on the back scans. It definitely looks better in the 3D box, but it also a sucks having to edit the scans a bit more for fitting the rectagular shape.
Well, not anymore: low and behold, a new contraption for improving scans 1000% or more :-)
With the upload of Space Quest 6, there's now 800(!) boxes available to click through on this site.
Enjoy!
Oh, look what landed on my doorstep today! A boxed US copy of Star Wars for C64!
Misplaced my European double cassette case + inlay decades ago, so I'm more than thrilled having this one now sitting on the shelf behind me.
Sure, it's a small box and yeah, I only played it with my brothers on Playstation 2, but it's a fantastic game and a great looking box.
Couldn't say no to it.
Spent some time tweaking various things to speed up the page. 3D boxes are of course still quite a load, but starting up bigboxcollection.com should be a bit faster now.
Also squashed a couple of bugs along the way.
RetroGamer Magazine takes a look at the enduring legacy of the Thief series which first appeared on our monitors back in 1999.
The article can be found in Load 260.
Came home from a short vacation with two more Big Boxes waiting on my door step: Al-Qadim had been on my wishlist forever and Thunderscape just had to be picked up due to having added Endomorph.
A couple of C64 games arrived today:
Another fantastic article in RetroGamer magazine load 259: The Making of Star Trek: 25th Anniversary.
Back in the day, I definitely preferred DuoTris, but at the same time, MirrorSoft's Tetris always had a special place in my heart. It was all I had while all the boys and girls around me played the superior GameBoy version, and boy, was I jealous.
Then again, there's Wally Beben's mind-blowing 20+ minutes tune and all is balanced again
Cut to 2024. I've just found out on CSDb that there's a remaster, err, remix, err, recoded version out there and it has just received an update!
Let's boot it up!
The update is not just some graphical tweaks, no, it's a full re-implementation of Tetris following how the game played on other Platforms at the time. Further, there's an optional shadow as well as music and sfx options.
It does play great, not as snappy as current versions of Tetris, but still. The addition of slow/hard drop is great and the sfx are a nice touch too.
My main complaint is that the original tune is only played on the title screen and can't be selected as background music thanks to technical limitations. Bummer.
Anyway, grab a copy of version 1.1b and give it a try!
Oh boy, I'm lagging behind big time! Sry for the spare updated these post months.
Boxes are piling up everywhere but the time needed for scanning and uploading them is very, very rare at the moment but I do hope to manage at least one or two games per week from now on again.
Curious, what's gonna show up? Yeah, I thought so, so here's my backlog of unscanned big boxes:
California Games was a huge hit for Epyx and thus released on a lot of platforms back in the day. RetroGamer mag takes a look at all the versions out there in Load 259.
With pixeling for the C64 being my new love and of course still loving my big boxes too, it only was a matter of days before those two worlds crashed into each other and formed something exiting! Below, a work-in-progress screenshot of my BigBoxPixel.
It's a HiRes picture (with expanded borders) showing the first 21 games turned from 2k textures into tiny 8x40 spines using only a hint of color due to the C64's restrictions. But still, I'm sure most of the boxes are recognizable, so enjoy figuring out what's on this 8-bit shelf
OK, I've got somewhat carried away this week by joining the C64GFX.Com CharSet Logo Compo 2024 and working on my first CharSet pix. There wasn't really any concept to follow but I stumbled along while learning the graphic modes as well as the editors (Petmate and PETSCII Editor) I used.
For the PETSCII pic, I've fooled around with tiles, as in ceramic tiles and one thing lead to another an a 3DBBG (short for my social media handle @3DBigBoxGames) thingy appeared waiting to be tweaked over and over again:
Next, I tried my luck with HiRes mode, which means, pixels and color are separated and thus easier to handle. Well, it got all out of hand and I've ended up with the whole screen filled and (almost) all the available colors used in a bright fever dream color splash. One of the problems that arised is, that there's no logo there and reworking the charset to have once again 3DBBG or something there felt too tedious. I've somewhat fixed it by making this the core and just turned it into "Oh, no! What logo?" and called it quits
The competition runs from Feb 7th to April 30th, so there's still time to join in. Voting will be May 1st to May 14th.
Make sure to check out all the submitted entries:
With Nightdive Studios working on their System Shock remaster, RetroGamer magazine sat down with them and Jon Chey, the lead programmer of Shock 2, for discussing the series' beginnings, how it could be updated and what's up with Shock 3. It's a lenghy 8-page article well worth the read.
This article appeared in Load 249.
David Crookes wrote me a mail back in August 2022 after stumbeling over BigBoxCollection.com and asked if he could shoot me some questions about collecting Big Box games.
Two months later, a IMHO very well written article about our hobby was published in PC Pro magazine (issue #338) featuring not only photos, screengrabs and quotes by yours truly but also from a bunch of other fellow collectors.
Here's a .pdf of the full article
And here's the full interview:
What was it about Castle Master that grabbed your attention — you mention the printed manual and cardboard box but what did you think about the art and the presentation?
Back then, cassettes in single jewel cases were the norm at the local shops in my area (and throughout Europe). Due to their size, cover artwork was rather limited and there wasn't any space for screenshots or descriptions either. Deciding what game to buy often came down to the cooler sounding title or tagline, a "#1"-sticker and who's the publisher (Codemasters never disappointed, Mastertronic were cheaper but were also often hit & miss). To be honest, most covers weren't that good looking but an attention seeking mess.
Seeing the Castle Master box on the shelf was quite a revelation: the ominous cover artwork presented boldly without any tag lines, slogans or stickers, the back listing the game's features and a couple of screenshots. It definitely felt a step up in quality and I'd even say boxes made games looking more mature and en-par with other media like books.
Did publishers make the most of the big boxes — what tricks would they pull on the covers (if any) to entice people in?
Here in Europe, the big box for PC games was standardized rather quickly within the industry in the early 90s which lead to sturdy two-part boxes with a glossy finish and to be honest, I'm quite happy with those. Sure, it was most likely a simple business decision to cut down production costs but it also allowed those who dared stepping out of line to shine even brighter. The possibilities of creating a unique box are endless, combining all the tricks the printing industry has up their sleeve including different finishes, die cut holes, irregular box shapes, gold letters and so on. In the US, one-piece boxes were more common featuring gate-fold covers and embossing but also resulted in a more flimsy box that required an inner cardboard for stability.
What makes a fine box?
All you'd need is a stunning cover art and enrich it with a good printing job. The minimalist MDK is as beautiful as the 7th Guest's elaborate "fake book" box. "American McGee's Alice" is a prime example of getting everything right too.
They also contained lots of goodies. Which were your favourites; the ones which stuck long in the mind?
Being a fan of CRPGs (Computer role-playing games), a game that included a good quality cloth map or coins always made me smile; little artefacts that link the virtual world with your own. Richard Garriott did a wonderful job with his Ultima series.
You now have 691 boxed games and you've digitised them? What motivated you to do this and how long has it taken you? They're in 3D too — was this to recreate the feel of the box? Do you only digitise your own games or have people lent some to you?
Last things first, bigboxcollection.com only includes games that I physically own, so it's a 1:1 representation of the shelf behind me. I rarely sell boxes, but if I do, I also remove the virtual one as well. The reason for starting this project was two-fold: a) I myself needed a visual catalogue that can be checked anytime anywhere, b) a big part of collecting is sharing what you've collected. The site allows me to link my boxes via social media as well as allowing other interested folks to dig through the whole collection as well.
I started out with photographs of my boxes but I wasn't satisfied with the varying quality of my pictures and thus started scanning them. Turning those flat scans into 3D was indeed my approach to recreate the feeling of browsing a shelf full of boxes in contrast to how we're scrolling through our digital purchases on Steam, GOG.com or consoles these days. We've lost the tangible nature of playing computer games, haven't we? It's similar to putting on a vinyl record compared to just hitting that play button on Spotify.
What are the biggest threats facing big box collectors?
The big box collectors don't face any real threats except scam. The whole "market" has inflated the past couple of years and the trends of "grading everything" coming from the US doesn't do anybody a favour either. The prospect of getting rich quick by selling your old games found in the cellar isn't really true. It's true though that fraud becomes a real possibility the more people are buying into this idea of retro games being a lucrative market. All in all, this isn't limited to games but applies to everything being traded with nostalgia and/or (artificial) rareness to it.
To me, it's just a hobby that I don't spend too much money on, so I don't see any threat. I'm not on a quest archiving and preserving computer gaming history nor do I have the money needed to join this club.
How can you spot fakes? What would stop someone grabbing recreating a box to sell — I see some people do sell recreated boxes (if it's clear they're doing this, is that ok?)?
There have been a handful of scandals in the past and this year's case surrounding Enrico Ricciardi was a big eye-opener for sure. The rarer a game, the harder it is to spot a fake because you can't compare it with verified copies that easily. The best way is reaching out to other collectors; the Big Box PC Game Collectors-group is the right place to start.
I love how you pit boxes against each other. Do you retain data showing which of the boxes are most popular?
Sure, the collection can be ordered by "Fight Club Ranking". There's also a fights won/lost info for each game viewable via PC (sry, mobile user) when using this ordering.
Boxes came in different sizes, didn't they? Which tended to be most common?
Despite some YouTube videos trying to give an absolute answer, there isn't really one here.
In the past 40+ years, the packaging of computer games changed a lot. At first, every publisher did their own thing, some more stream-lined (e.g. early Infocom titles), some just following the bigger players' lead and others being more adventurous (e.g. Origin). The computer market itself changed a lot too (PC as in Personal Computer does of course not only mean MS-DOS/Windows but also dozens of sometimes region specific 8-bit home computer systems) and the game packaging had to be in line with the various media (cassettes, cartridges, floppy discs, CDs,...) used. To make things even more complicated, worldwide publishing wasn't a thing and therefore the same game had different packaging in different regions of the world.
My summary would be: the US had a lot of variations while a big part of the European market informally agreed upon several "standard" sizes for the various computer platforms.
I'm a nerd living in Vienna, Austria and host of this site. You can get in touch with me via benjamin@bigboxcollection.com and over at Twitter @3DBigBoxGames.
It all started back in 1988 on the humble C64 before moving on to DOS/Win with GameBoy, SNES, and N64 on the side, so to speak. I'm not only a gameer but also a collector, although I didn't set out to be one; I just kept all the games that I've bought over the years. Well, until 2005ish at least. That's when big box games got replaced with first smaller boxes and then later DVD cases until Steam and gog.com came around and we all went digital on PC.
However, back in 2012, I stumbled upon a new release for Commodore 64 called C64anabalt, and guess what?
It's a physical release! In a box! A (very) small one, but a box!
With finding C64anabalt, my love for boxed games was reigneted, and I began to track down all the games I had only owned as budget release, as well as all the classics that I had always wanted to play but never had the chance to. Classifieds and eBay offered almost everything for a few bucks, and soon enough, I had more games than I could keep track of.
To share my growing collection online with other retro gamers, I started taking photos of my games. Although it worked, managing multiple photo albums and a private spreadsheet with all the data became quite cumbersome and far from ideal. I realized that combining both elements was the way to go — building upon my spreadsheet and creating a website that would showcase a virtual copy of my NerdWall™.
In 2015, I launched BigBoxCollection.com. Here, I host 3D models textured with high-resolution scans of my boxes, allowing visitors to click through and explore. The site has changed over the years staring with a more dark and gritty look before restarting with a clean one in May 2016. In 2023, I thought I'd add a dark theme but instead of just tweaking the CSS files, I've reimplemented the whole site, reworked mouse & touch controls and added features that I've always wanted to have but never found the time for like panning the 3D boxes as well as visualizing gatefolds.
This privacy statement is for bigboxcollection.com, a site run by me, Benjamin Wimmer, and according to General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), I have a duty to protect your personal data. In this statement, I outline which data is reached during the use of bigboxcollection.com, how it is collected, and also what I use this data for.
Your data are collected by the following data processing operations.
Each time you access the website, the visit is recorded in a log file (server logs) for a period of 190 days with the following log data:
This data is used for system security verification, error analysis and for statistical purposess.
bigboxcollection.com counts how often a 3D box is viewed, from where the 3D box was accessed from and also tries to map those views to sessions. For this, the following data is processed:
For mapping views to sessions, an anonymizised fingerprint is generated using a combination of the IP address and the user agent data. The fingerprint is generated using a one-way hash function with the given user data and other, internal data as input values. The provided input will always result in the same fixed length set of characters but it is impossible to determine what the original input was because the encryption algorithm only goes one way.
Adding other, internal data that's only known to bigboxcollection.com to the set of input data is done for forcing the result set's uniqueness, increasing its complexity and thus hightening the level of anonymization.
The fingerprint is used to clear the "Games, that have just been looked up"-panel on the starting page from the boxes that have been looked up during your current session and thus only show boxes from other sessions. Further, it is used to help spam detection.
The 3D box viewed, the provided referrer and the generated fingerprint are stored and used for internal statistics as well as for generating content for bigboxcollection.com, e.g. how often a box has been viewed so far and for generating the "Games, that have just been looked up"-panel.
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Benjamin Wimmer, Vienna, Austra
benjamin@bigboxcollection.com
Benjamin Wimmer
Vienna, Austria
benjamin@bigboxcollection.com